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 Post subject: Re: Spell Rotation and BIS f/ MOP ?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:18 am  
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Ok, thanks will test it in beta asap.

So my next question is regarding Dots. What is the best strategy at the moment on beta/simcraft?
We hit Eclipse, we cast both 2 dots and then before Nature Grace is over we clip them both? We cast dots the next time after we have hit the other eclipse?


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 Post subject: Re: Spell Rotation and BIS f/ MOP ?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:16 pm  
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Here's an explanation of one DOT strategy I've seen in testing (lazurturkey):
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... page=8#149

and here's dannykin's full rotation:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... page=8#151

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 Post subject: Re: Spell Rotation and BIS f/ MOP ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:26 am  
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Did some testing as describe with your post Lissanna and i got the best one with a version of Lazurs.

So basically i did
In Lunar apply Moonfire at start
Apply Sunfire if not existing and Nature Grace is up
Clip Moonfire when we are leaving Lunar and/or Nature Grace

Solar apply Sunfire(potentially clipping but not with much)
Apply Moonfire without clipping if we are still within Nature Grace
Clip Sunfore when we are leaving Solar and/or Nature Grace.

Using PvP gear and some enchants i got around 34K dps only using Dots, Wrath/Starfire and StarSurge. Other scenarios was around 31-32.

But it is safe to say that only cast Dots if it is buffed with eclipse or Nature Grace.


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Have we determined the best spell to bind troll Berserking to yet?

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Treeb wrote:
Have we determined the best spell to bind troll Berserking to yet?
CA looks like it would be best.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:50 am  
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Moonfire and Sunfire have been buffed along with a 15% buff for DoC. The DoC buff doesnt really make any sense as it was already on par with the other talents in the tier. But since this build is marked for release I would say be prepared to throw Healing Touches into your rotation, as DoC is now vastly superior to NV and HotW.


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lissanna wrote:
Here's an explanation of one DOT strategy I've seen in testing (lazurturkey):
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... page=8#149

and here's dannykin's full rotation:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... page=8#151


Reading thru this I have to agree.. They are really *$&#@$# us up! I already have a few owlkin friends rerolling monk/mage.
So far a few simcrafts i've seen suggested that we are bottom of the food chain.. wtb US account so I can post on the good fourms as apposed to the EU forums which is full of "WUT TEIR MATCHES MY FUR?!" "RATE DIS MOG SET LOL" *walks off in a huff*

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 Post subject: Re: Spell Rotation and BIS f/ MOP ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:06 pm  
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Excuse me if they have changed something, I havent been on beta but for a few times. Where does Mirror Image fit into all of this if you are lucky enough to have a mage in your group?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:57 pm  
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Last I heard, the images don't hit for much, so it is mainly an aggro drop. However that could have changed. I'd like to see an updated Symbiosis list, with an analysis of the numbers.


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Erdluf wrote:
Last I heard, the images don't hit for much, so it is mainly an aggro drop. However that could have changed. I'd like to see an updated Symbiosis list, with an analysis of the numbers.

Mirror images were the only ones that had any damage impact at all. There aren't numbers to analyze for anything else.

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I'm going to be putting it on a warlock personally. That damage mitigation will be more helpful(probably) than the aggro drop/small damage boost from mirror images and a warlock having rejuv will be nice considering how much they damage themselves with some spells.

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In 10-mans, you are likely going to want to be putting symbiosis on the tanks to give them the tank cooldown. In 25-mans, the targets are going to depend on who else is in your raid. :)

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DoC has been re-Nerfed back to 50%.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:55 pm  
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Stommped wrote:
DoC has been re-Nerfed back to 50%.

Praise baby cenarius! That puts it back to being roughly even/slightly below NV, correct?

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